Harveytherabbit: Okay, now that is amazingly hot and well done. The only issue is vaginas don't really gape like that perfectly vertically, so a little distracting there without it closing or showing more of the tender internal flesh contracting slightly after the removal. Would be better to just leave the penis inside her than show that portion if the extra detail is difficult to do in this style.
Harveytherabbit: @lemmebeatit: Correct. The absurdity is fun to play with. What is the purpose of an artist? Constantly get better. What is the purpose of porn? To draw out the sexual response from people. What is the purpose of production art (which is exactly what this is regardless of stupid people who don't understand that)? To make the intention as believable as possible to remove suspension of disbelief to allow greatest reaction. Combine the last two and if you have something unrealistic, as in not allowing the brain to follow along unconsciously, you have essentially a flaw that can be corrected to make the next piece stronger.
For example anyone who says the phrase 'it's just porn' is just plain useless. They have not used their brain to connect the dots that they enjoy it for these reasons, which is why all the bitching occurs. The best animations come from a lot of experience and understanding of reality, and people who lack knowledge on animation are perfectly fine enjoying them mindlessly without any knowledge of it, which is fine, but it means you have nothing worthwhile to say about it.
It was an artistic critique of a piece of animated artwork that happens to be porn of a cartoon rabbit. So what? I know exactly what it took to create this and why it is hot. So considering that one aspect is distracting, I commented.
If you choose not to use your brain with porn, that's your choice, but all that means is you chose not to use your brain. That's all.
Harveytherabbit: @DuhBeast: I just know exactly what I'm talking about, and can explain it in detail. If that is the definition of 'autistic' to people who don't actually know what it means, then I guess I should be proud to be called that since people like yourself are so inept at communication.
@syko136: I enjoy seeing the artistry in how the animators solve the problems alongside the eroticism, so it is stimulating in more than one way for me. I don't think most artists read the comments, so I don't spend a lot of time, but the critique on the vagina is no less true, and didn't take any effort to write. My explanation is simply in hopes that people realize that quality porn animations and hollywood animations actually require the same level of knowledge and effort, and I respect the creators as actual creators for that reason so I comment that way.
DuhBeast: @Harveytherabbit: "Artistry, Stimulating, blah blah blah" You try to come off as some patron of the great arts in a fucken porn site. It's so pretentious. You deserve to see the other end of a 12 gauge shotgun.
lemmebeatit: @Harveytherabbit: If I can suspend disbelief enough to whack it to a cartoon rabbit getting the dick I'm not going to draw a line at how the cartoon rabbits vagina is animated. I really don't need perfection when it comes to this sorta shit. If I wanna see a real pussy I'll go to (inesrt porn site here) and dredge the waters for realistic porn with real people having real sex.
"The best animations come from a lot of experience and understanding of reality" is just odd, dude. For all the realism you desire from this piece of art it's still a cartoon anthropomorphic rabbit getting gangbanged on a basketball court, dude. If I'm already ignoring the fact rabbit-girls aren't real then I can forgive a slight fault with how the vagoober is animated.
Also ignore DuhBeast- he's just mad that he can't fuck the rabbit-girl.
Harveytherabbit: @lemmebeatit: @DuhBeast: I'll just try to explain it as an animator and hopefully it will make sense. People who don't understand animation can't put two and two together between 'porn animation' and 'real animation' being the same thing because they don't know how difficult it is and think 'it's just porn'. The vagina is not accurate, however you're willing to forgive the vagina because the rest is so excellently animated, that's why you're able to see past it because the animator achieved such believability in movement to allow it to be okay and your brain is able to 'hold on' based on the believability of the rest. My original comment is a critique on how to improve, which is normal for animation. The fact of the matter is if the vagina was animated as well as the rest (and you can envision other animations that were better as a comparison where it never enters your mind even subconsciously), your brain wouldn't feel as much need to suspend disbelief because your brain knows how a vagina moves.
If an animation looks unrealistic in a movie, we notice instantly, and chide the movie. No matter what we pretend about animated pornography, if we're looking at it, we want it to be stimulating. To be stimulating, it must trigger enough believability in our minds to be turned on. This is where the skill comes in. And in order to have the skill, you must understand anatomy, and the movement of the body properly in order to accomplish it, which takes months to years of study. What you may not know is this animator spent hours animating this one animation and had to adjust very minute details, like altering the bounce of the breasts dozens of times until it looked right, making sure the legs follow secondary motion in timing with the thrusting, and increasing it appropriately as the thrusting got more intense, etc. etc. Literally dozens of small details that normal people can only see subconsciously, but every one of us can detect because we know what people look like. That's why I respect these creators, because if there's any animation that requires serious knowledge, it's pornography. Once you understand that, it's actually that much more impressive that an animator achieved sexuality in a cartoon rabbit. So my point is there's an irony that saying 'it's just porn' is disregarding a level of skill and time investment that is very often on par with the best movie CG and required the same, if not more skill. And consequently that's why this is stimulating in many ways for me, it's pornography, and my animator mind is on full blast enjoying the skill as I enjoy them.
lemmebeatit: @Harveytherabbit: You really don't need to type a thesis defending your position, my man. I know your position. You're hitting me with "that gun has a 13 round magazine but he fired 15 shots" viewpoint but for animators. I'm fine with that, animating shit good is hard to do, I'm all for good animation. (Also you think my suspension of disbelief when it comes to this is some Herculean task- it's not, and if it is for you then that sucks for you.) What I'm sayin' is it's real weird to bring that to PORN and you're making it sound like knowing how hard it is to animate this rabbit-woman getting dicked down somehow makes it SEXIER to you because you know the technical skill needed to accomplish it. That shit is weird. You're not wrong- you're just being fuckin' weird. Forgo the thesis' you keep replying with- you're not convincing me you aren't weird to make that initial comment no matter how technical and 'in-the-know' it may be.
Harveytherabbit: You missed my point by bringing back that because it's related to porn it's somehow lesser. That was my point, the fact that it's porn is irrelevant once you actually understand the skill regardless of the content. The problem isn't me or the animation, the problem is people having a psychological anchor that 'porn is bad' and they have no consciousness of it and become hypocrites by even being on this site. I am weird because apparently I'm one of the few who understand that and accept it.
lemmebeatit: ... the fuck are you on about Harvey? I understand your point, I'm not lessening it because it's pointed at the rabbits clam. The phrase "showing more of the tender internal flesh" is you being weird when you're trying to be technical. Let's just ignore that though for this:
How about this- animating is hard, attention to detail is important, it's a skill and honed craft, etc etc. That being true- why is the FUR around her cunt glistening as if it were oiled skin? That's not how that works at all- fur gets damp, matted, and such. If the complaint the pussy didn't gape correctly for the past few posts is important to you then why not comment on this glaring error? Or are we fine with that because it looks better that way?
Harveytherabbit: @lemmebeatit: Obviously we're fine because it looks better that way. You're overshooting realism into reality to something unrelated to the point. She's anthropomorphized in a sexual capacity, which means the expectations in the mind is that it will resemble a woman in the most reasonable ways, and the character in all the ways that count. Yet again going back to the skill of the artist to balance that which was the original point. To your point matted fur could have worked as well, because the artist could have stylized it so it's like a woman with an unshaven vagina. This is obviously representing a shaved vagina, so it fits that fantasy, and it could have worked either way and what you're talking about isn't about how real it is but artistic choice, yet again wrapping back around to understanding skill.
The critique was because everything in the animation regarding her hits a certain quality and consistency, except the inside of the vagina. It has an obvious lack of animation compared to the rest of her, and that is devoid of artistic style, that is an inconsistency which is a viable critique regardless of peoples' fetishes.
And if your issue was the wording, and you have an issue with the phrase 'tender flesh' then so be it, in hindsight I'd reword it to "showing more of the muscles and labia clenching back down after the penis was removed and spreading when it re-enters." It's more specific anyway from an artistic standpoint.
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For example anyone who says the phrase 'it's just porn' is just plain useless. They have not used their brain to connect the dots that they enjoy it for these reasons, which is why all the bitching occurs. The best animations come from a lot of experience and understanding of reality, and people who lack knowledge on animation are perfectly fine enjoying them mindlessly without any knowledge of it, which is fine, but it means you have nothing worthwhile to say about it.
It was an artistic critique of a piece of animated artwork that happens to be porn of a cartoon rabbit. So what? I know exactly what it took to create this and why it is hot. So considering that one aspect is distracting, I commented.
If you choose not to use your brain with porn, that's your choice, but all that means is you chose not to use your brain. That's all.
@syko136: I enjoy seeing the artistry in how the animators solve the problems alongside the eroticism, so it is stimulating in more than one way for me. I don't think most artists read the comments, so I don't spend a lot of time, but the critique on the vagina is no less true, and didn't take any effort to write. My explanation is simply in hopes that people realize that quality porn animations and hollywood animations actually require the same level of knowledge and effort, and I respect the creators as actual creators for that reason so I comment that way.
and you @DuhBeast: im actually autistic and i was asking him to chill, so make of that what you will buddy.
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"The best animations come from a lot of experience and understanding of reality" is just odd, dude. For all the realism you desire from this piece of art it's still a cartoon anthropomorphic rabbit getting gangbanged on a basketball court, dude. If I'm already ignoring the fact rabbit-girls aren't real then I can forgive a slight fault with how the vagoober is animated.
Also ignore DuhBeast- he's just mad that he can't fuck the rabbit-girl.
If an animation looks unrealistic in a movie, we notice instantly, and chide the movie. No matter what we pretend about animated pornography, if we're looking at it, we want it to be stimulating. To be stimulating, it must trigger enough believability in our minds to be turned on. This is where the skill comes in. And in order to have the skill, you must understand anatomy, and the movement of the body properly in order to accomplish it, which takes months to years of study. What you may not know is this animator spent hours animating this one animation and had to adjust very minute details, like altering the bounce of the breasts dozens of times until it looked right, making sure the legs follow secondary motion in timing with the thrusting, and increasing it appropriately as the thrusting got more intense, etc. etc. Literally dozens of small details that normal people can only see subconsciously, but every one of us can detect because we know what people look like. That's why I respect these creators, because if there's any animation that requires serious knowledge, it's pornography. Once you understand that, it's actually that much more impressive that an animator achieved sexuality in a cartoon rabbit. So my point is there's an irony that saying 'it's just porn' is disregarding a level of skill and time investment that is very often on par with the best movie CG and required the same, if not more skill. And consequently that's why this is stimulating in many ways for me, it's pornography, and my animator mind is on full blast enjoying the skill as I enjoy them.
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How about this- animating is hard, attention to detail is important, it's a skill and honed craft, etc etc. That being true- why is the FUR around her cunt glistening as if it were oiled skin? That's not how that works at all- fur gets damp, matted, and such. If the complaint the pussy didn't gape correctly for the past few posts is important to you then why not comment on this glaring error? Or are we fine with that because it looks better that way?
The critique was because everything in the animation regarding her hits a certain quality and consistency, except the inside of the vagina. It has an obvious lack of animation compared to the rest of her, and that is devoid of artistic style, that is an inconsistency which is a viable critique regardless of peoples' fetishes.
And if your issue was the wording, and you have an issue with the phrase 'tender flesh' then so be it, in hindsight I'd reword it to "showing more of the muscles and labia clenching back down after the penis was removed and spreading when it re-enters." It's more specific anyway from an artistic standpoint.